Sunfeast 10k 2009 target times
I'm sure there are a lot of people running the Sunfeast 10k just for fun, but there surely are others who plan to do it seriously. So what time do you want to finish? I would be happy with a sub 50 min time for myself.
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Permalink Reply by Running Minds on
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Hey Rohit, 50min is really good time. Last sunfeast i had a target of 50min and completed the race in 45min.
so am aiming less than 45min this time. looks very aggressive time for me, still, i want to try. Cheers !!!
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Permalink Reply by Rohit on -
Hi Veermani. Running is going good. I didn't run it last year. But last year's route, by the looks of it, was generally flat. They haven't announced this year's route officially
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Permalink Reply by kishore kumar .D on -
hello rohit, i am targetting 50 mintues, in my paractise sessions i have been doung 53 minutes, havea gr8 training and all the bestfor ur sunfeast run.
regards, kishore kumar
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Permalink Reply by Nitin Gupta on -
46 min
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Permalink Reply by Giles Drego on -
Hi Rohit,
Was reading your Profile. 24years and targetting 50mins. I would say Rohit go on and target 47mins. You target high you'll get a little lower. Your 10K in 51mins 46secs on the treadmill would believe me to think you'll do a slower time than 51.46. The treadmill pushes you while on the road you push youself. Also the sun will sap you by about 2-3mins.
There's still time, do some speedwork.
Am from Mumbai. If you wish, check my Profile for more details.
If I have depressed you, by saying anything negative - then it was not meant to be.
Keep training, keep smiling.
Giles Drego
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Permalink Reply by Rohit on
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Hi Giles,
My best 10k on road is 52 mins. Yes, I would want to go faster and what you say makes sense. But I want to increase my speed gradually and not risk injury. Till now I have only run half marathons and my speed has been around 10 KM/H. So increasing it to 12 KM/H and sustaining it for a decent distance is a good challenge for me now. I'm following the Runner's World intermediate 10k program.
Thanks,
Rohit
Giles Drego said:Hi Rohit,
Was reading your Profile. 24years and targetting 50mins. I would say Rohit go on and target 47mins. You target high you'll get a little lower. Your 10K in 51mins 46secs on the treadmill would believe me to think you'll do a slower time than 51.46. The treadmill pushes you while on the road you push youself. Also the sun will sap you by about 2-3mins.
There's still time, do some speedwork.
Am from Mumbai. If you wish, check my Profile for more details.
If I have depressed you, by saying anything negative - then it was not meant to be.
Keep training, keep smiling.
Giles Drego
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Permalink Reply by Giles Drego on
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Hi Rohit,
Yes, makes sense - increase gradually. Runner's world are good I would say, but being run by professionals, they do tend to "assume" that even a beginner would know certain things. Also, the pros at Runners chart out workouts (whatever the intensity) with a mind basically on foreigners (read American and Europeans, to some extent Kenyans). As you know, most of these foreigners have better body and bone structure than us Indians (besides capacity of course).
My suggestion, just make a few adjustments from whatever you take from Runners or anywhere else. Have not tried, in any way to depress you.
I tell one and all, whatever I write, is for the good of this sport - you take it or leave it.
Hey, am 50++ years (closer to 55), and recently done the 10K in 48mins. 53secs. (not bragging).
Keep running maan - you're good too.
Giles Drego
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Permalink Reply by Rohit on
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Sure, will do. When someone tells me that I can do better and have more potential, that's hardly depressing :)
Your times are impressive and inspiring.
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Permalink Reply by Rahul Chauhan on -
Hi Giles, its not my intention to digress from the current topic ( sorry Rohit ) but there was a context for a question here :-).
I have heard many say the following in the context of running on a treadmill.
-a run on treadmill is just not the same as on a road.
-add an inclination of 1 to 2% for near for road conditions.
- the treadmill pushes you while on road you push yourself.
Is this also true for the manual treadmills ? ( Personally I have no experience of using a manual treadmill )
Giles Drego said:Hi Rohit,
Was reading your Profile. 24years and targetting 50mins. I would say Rohit go on and target 47mins. You target high you'll get a little lower. Your 10K in 51mins 46secs on the treadmill would believe me to think you'll do a slower time than 51.46. The treadmill pushes you while on the road you push youself. Also the sun will sap you by about 2-3mins.
There's still time, do some speedwork.
Am from Mumbai. If you wish, check my Profile for more details.
If I have depressed you, by saying anything negative - then it was not meant to be.
Keep training, keep smiling.
Giles Drego
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Permalink Reply by Giles Drego on
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Hi Rahul,
First, you are free to ask any question - whether you digress or not. But to answer your question. No, it doesnt apply to a manual treadmill (a manual treadmill doesnt push you). However, you push yourself with the support of upper body strength AND legs. Therefore, this again is not the same as Road/Track running. Whats more, if you use a manual treadmill for long periods then you'll get a warpped sense of balance, which again will disturb your natural running style.
Coming back to auto treadmills whee you say add 1 or 2% inclination for near road conditions. I disagree with those who say this (I have not said it). Rahul, remember, a road is flat, here and there there might be a slight incline (maybe 1 to 3%) but on a treadmill if your keep it at 2% youre running at this inclination Constantly - so how can this be "near road conditions"??
Hope you understand what am saying. You want to know more, on any running topic, would he nice if you get on my direct e-mail. It pretty lengthy and boring for people to read such long drawn out stuff.
Best to you all,
Giles Drego
ponchodr123@gmail.com gilesdrego2006@yahoo.com
Rahul said:Hi Giles, its not my intention to digress from the current topic ( sorry Rohit ) but there was a context for a question here :-).
I have heard many say the following in the context of running on a treadmill.
-a run on treadmill is just not the same as on a road.
-add an inclination of 1 to 2% for near for road conditions.
- the treadmill pushes you while on road you push yourself.
Is this also true for the manual treadmills ? ( Personally I have no experience of using a manual treadmill )
Giles Drego said:Hi Rohit,
Was reading your Profile. 24years and targetting 50mins. I would say Rohit go on and target 47mins. You target high you'll get a little lower. Your 10K in 51mins 46secs on the treadmill would believe me to think you'll do a slower time than 51.46. The treadmill pushes you while on the road you push youself. Also the sun will sap you by about 2-3mins.
There's still time, do some speedwork.
Am from Mumbai. If you wish, check my Profile for more details.
If I have depressed you, by saying anything negative - then it was not meant to be.
Keep training, keep smiling.
Giles Drego
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Permalink Reply by Giles Drego on
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Re : “Lowered expectations”
“we Indians don’t have the right body type, the right genes, etc”. Well, put an average Indian against an average foreigner (read American/European) and see for yourself the difference – in height, weight, structure whatever. It doesn’t’ need research to prove this when its plainly right there in front of your eyes for you “to see it”.
As for genes, you yourself say “genes are a factor in most high performance”. Yeah, the foreigners are the same as us I suppose i.e. “red blood and all”.
India is a “diabetic” country. By the same yardstick America is an “obese” country. Yet in your own words “Americans rule(d) the track”. So why can’t a lean Indian defeat an obese American?? Have you done some Research on that?? Or is it that ‘obese’ people run faster than the ‘lean’.
As far as You know, most (>90%) of the "Indians" (no matter where they live in the world), are addicted to a few comforts. Prime one being TV and closely followed by eating excessively. Maybe, in India, yes (TV addicted), but world over, I don’t think so. Have You done Research on that?? And aren’t the Americans more TV addicted and couch potatoes than Indians??
Most Africans start off barefoot, which enables them to run the “correct” way. Yes, there’s a school of thought on this and a lot of research has been done too – and continues to be done. But who says that barefoot running is the “correct” way - it’s the ‘NATURAL’ way yes. Nothing as yet, has been Proved “correct” (barefoot or shoed). This has been a long drawn out debate. If You say it’s the “correct” way, let me see the Proof (improper Research isn’t absolute Proof and misinformation is certainly as good as negative advice).
Would am curious to know if YOU run the “Correct” way (meaning barefoot) – probably did the 125K Canadian Rocky Mountain run, running barefoot for 21 odd hours – huh!!
If you’re such a big achiever on the running scene and so knowledgeable too, why don’t you write more often on this RFL site. Or maybe you’re not a “seat warmer” like me – all the time in front of a computer. Maybe you don’t want to guide runners, maybe you don’t want to tell how top runners train, maybe you’re too busy running, maybe a lot of things.
Thanks for the link to “inspire” me. Had the link a long time ago though. Yes, had it a long time ago. And just to let you know, never said was 55 years old (said “closer” to 55). Am well aware that 55 is “not that old”. Am well aware too that I have a long way to go (though you never said so). and, yes, may never get to a higher level, what with my “Lower expectations”, but to whichever runner have written, that am closer to 55 – check them out – my timings have been (most often) better than theirs and Therefore, have told them am closer to 55 (just so to boost their spirits in order they become better runners). If you still don’t understand, I mean to tell them “if a 50++ year can do this time, you can do far better”. Do some Research maan, before you erupt in print.
And, hey, listen, we are here on this site to discus, debate, comment, give our opinion etc. etc. What I write is My opinion, my comment (and I could definitely be wrong or right). However, your comment back could always have been done with some etiquette – you can always come out and say “I disagree” “it should be this way or that way” “you’re wrong” etc. etc. Don’t come out spewing venom and flaying punches like a boxer, for this is not a Boxing Ring it’s a Runner’s circle.
You don’t like my comments and it’s not the first time?? Just couldn’t care less, even if were for the Nth time.
Ravi said:RE: "As you know, most of these foreigners have better body and bone structure than us Indians (besides capacity of course)."
We need to rest this once and for all.
You keep assuring us that “we Indians don’t have the right body type, the right genes, etc”. This is what I call "Lowered Expectations". Is there a research to prove this? I want to see it.
There are a few things to note.
- Yes, genes are a factor in most high performance. Not denying that. But what about sheer willpower? What about our own Milka Singh, PT Usha & Others? You don’t need to go far to find other examples. Just have a look at the Para Olympics. What about THAT girl from South Africa, who participated in both "Able” body Olympics AND Para Olympics (she was blind).
- As far as I know, most (>90%) of the "Indian" (no matter where they live in the world), they are addicted to a few comforts. Prime one being TV and closely followed by eating excessively. India is a "Diabetic" country (highest percentage in the world). If you care, there’s enough data out there. It is easy to blame our genes for the diabetes but look how we take care of ourselves?
- How did we get diabetic? Indians lived in the subcontinent for 10's of 1000's of years. So you would expect a better evolution of diet to suit our need. IT DID. The copious quantities of Carbs and salts are to sustain an agrarian society in tropical climate (ask any dietician). It is NOT meant for traveling in cars to the corner store and watching TV). When not converting/spending the fuel (carbs) turn to fat. When not sweating it out the Salts(sodium) will give you hypertension/high blood pressure.
- Now to our value system: We want our kids to do well in life, starting with school. And "usually" sports are considered to waste time. "We don’t want out kids to get tired for school". I recently talked to my cousin's son in 9th grade. He is goes to a school 7 days a week. They said that to me with a lot of pride, of course. It is an elite school to almost guarantee you to get into an IIT. His relief was a Play station. What the heck, no physical activity? I know he is not alone. There is a whole generation. I want to drag this subject a little bit. How did we get so "competitive" at school?. We make lots and lots of babies without a care in the world how they can take care of themselves. Although we boast about our marriage system (how only a small % end in divorces), lets face it, most of them are “single parents”. Cause the MAN of the house is busy making money. All I am saying is, WHERE IS THE BALANCE ?
- Cricket: The small % of people who encourage sports to their kids discourage them from other sports and "coach" them to take-up cricket. Here is a stat worth pondering. Of all the TV ads (in India) that involve athletes, what % of them involves cricketers? NO, I don’t have this data. if anyone has this data please post it.
- Foreign athletes: Who are they? They are just like us. Red blood and all.
o If you are referring to European & North American, in the schools they have a different curriculum. The society is setup differently. For example, a portion of the property tax collec
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